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Post  6N-Dubber on Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:38 pm

Hey Last week i said my head gasket is on way out but then found out it wasnt but i dont know were all my coolant is going to as i topped it to the max wendsday and its below min again but the water isnt leaking as doesnt seem to be mixin in with the oil and know my exhaust manifold is blowin loads of black smoke when i just started her up.....
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Post  ShoozY on Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:45 pm

have you considerd an internal leak whereby the coolant is leaking into the combustion chanber and coming out as steam in the exhaust..... thats what used to happen to my zr but wouldnt realy expect it from a polo engin as its a difarent type of setup compared to the good old k series lump a sh*t
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Post  adi on Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:06 pm

Strange one cuz normally when the head gasket has gone between the cylinder and the coolant channel the compression in the engine normally pressurizes and boils the coolant pretty quickly...

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Post  6N-Dubber on Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:08 pm

well i guess it must be ill need to stick it on tht exhaust gases reader thing at college but its got no collant left in it what so eva and i filled to the brim on Wednesday..
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Post  6N-Dubber on Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:09 pm

so if it is going into the cylinders is there anyway of stopping it??
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Post  DubaHolic on Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:26 pm

basically you can check this using the modis at college. It should be able to see what is going on inside each cylinder and check if what is getting in there. Will you be bringing it in this week? If so then we will help you sort out why you are loosing the coolant but the must be something seriously wrong to be loosing that much coolant in one week.
You say that there is black smoke coming out the back when you start it, surely if water was getting into the cylinders you should be getting white smoke????? Did you check to see if there is any moisture in the spark plug holes???
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Post  6N-Dubber on Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:04 pm

Ok my bad yes it was white smoke so coolant is getting into the cylinders and comin out on the bucket loads Sad well hopefully i should be bringing it in this week but money is low for petrol but i shall see later on the week
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Post  ShoozY on Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:47 pm

look for something called k-seal,i used it on my last car when my bore sleevs started leaking(it shouldnt hapen this way with your engine). basicaly lubricates all coolant chanels,anti corosive treatment for metal and ruber and can be mixed with any coolan(would sugest having 50/50 mixture) and it like settles in places wher there is a depression of pressure if that makes scence. note it is not a gaurantied permanent fix but it has worked for the majority of users.

screw it,heres a link to what it dose:

http://www.k-seal.co.uk/

If you do buy it then be sure to have a coolant mixture in the system,iv got some halfrauds ready mix stuff left over that u can have but youl need more to fill your cooling system cappacity and id buy it of flebay, its cheaper

also check this video out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqfp3PFJQJk
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Post  6N-Dubber on Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:55 pm

Cheers for the advice and yea ill go halfords see how much it costs and look to buy it next week as im low on funds Smile could i warp the head if carrys on or the pistons?
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Post  ShoozY on Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:02 pm

there is a chance of warping the head like but as long as u makesure you have sufficient fluids then you should be orite,not like you drive very spirited alot of the time so just make sure ur cars got fluids, halfords for thecoolant(use trade card) and ebay for k-seal
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Post  lemski on Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:59 pm

alex also have you checked the rad for a leak, any patches on the floor when you come to the car in the morning, i know my rad needs looking at as a hose is leaking i think
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Post  6N-Dubber on Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:39 pm

Nope i cant see any leaks what so ever around my radiator but its not very easy to see unless u take the front of the car off Very Happy and i looked up about k-seal bout £10 on ebay will invest init in couple of weeks when i can Smile

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Post  DubaHolic on Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:57 pm

I have just been thinkng about this problem again and thought about some other stuff, you said that when you take the oil filler cap off you notice that there was some mayo on it and this has happened twice and your collant seems to be going down???? Dont want to be the put a downer on it but that would suggest that yoou might already have a warped head or a crack somewhere in it? Have you looked at the end of your exhaust and see if there is excessive water/moisture in it? I know this sounds stupid but also smell the vapour coming out and if you can smell anit-freeze then this would be a very good indication that the coolant is getting into the combustion chamber.
Have you also left the car running until it has got up to temp and the rad fan kicks in? Then check all the hoses.

I would defo try to get some K seal asap as this matter will only start to get worse and could cause major damage if it is a crack in the head?
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Post  lewis1641 on Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:19 pm

are you guys all on the college course? can you not just whip the head off and check it? surely you can get it skimmed cheap enough?

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Post  6N-Dubber on Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:02 pm

Yea we are all at college Smile and yea i think only way to check is whip it all apart and if it is bad harry said he may have a 1.4 engine spare soonish Very Happy

But thats a gd idea thanks
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Post  caistor_bmx on Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:27 pm

How much time are you allowed to spend playing with your own cars in the college workshop?
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Post  6N-Dubber on Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:31 pm

We got half of wensday all thursday and friday morning to tinkle around with our cars unless we get told to sort someone else car out.....

but if i remove the head and what have ya wouldn't i need to replace the gasket...
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Post  caistor_bmx on Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:39 pm

Yes you would, which costs about a tenner along with the rocker gasket. So its spend £20 or have your engine overheat and shit itself whilst on the way to college costing a few hundred quid?

If all is well you will have replaced your head gasket, if not dont bother with the new gasket and get the engine out asap
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Post  6N-Dubber on Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:43 pm

Well i asked the guy at college he said £28 just for head gasket.... and it doesnt over heat the pressure in the cooling system stays the same so it aint loseing or gaining pressure
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Post  lemski on Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:47 pm

just see iff college will let you do a head gasket as there is a lot of work to be done.
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Post  6N-Dubber on Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:49 pm

yea gonna have a word with them 2moz see what they say as i got a feeling its goin to be bad news about damage Sad but its come with pwning a polo Razz
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Post  lemski on Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:54 pm

yeh the problem you have is your doin a head in college, which means every 5minutes a tutor will have to see if its going okay, as if you mess that up you are stuck at college and the polo wont be going nowhere either. just depends who you speak to and if barry lets it in to be done.
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Post  DubaHolic on Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:26 pm

lemski wrote:yeh the problem you have is your doin a head in college, which means every 5minutes a tutor will have to see if its going okay, as if you mess that up you are stuck at college and the polo wont be going nowhere either. just depends who you speak to and if barry lets it in to be done.

Yeah liam is rite i was just about to say this, some of teachers would be fine with you doing this and some would be rite gits about it and say no. I would just ask Brain stright away and tell him the situation and explain your worried that the car will blow up if you dont sort this problem asap Very Happy

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Post  lemski on Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:06 pm

its barry who lets cars in for serious work, you would have to ask him
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Post  lewis1641 on Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:52 am

My mate is scrapping a 1.4 soon too if you get stuck.

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